Thomas Grill was invited to take part in a panel discussion together with Reni Hofmüller, Christina Kubisch and Fränk Zimmer, presented by Susanna Niedermayr (ORF Ö1 Zeit-Ton) and hosted by esc medien kunst labor. The festival theme “Hidden sounds” was illuminated from different directions, in our case in the context of the rotting sounds project and the acousmatic composition noise shaping Thomas has presented at the festival the day before.